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The party has not and will not change at a federal level. Part of making red states sovereign is ensuring that the federal government doesn’t control western lands. We’re joined today by Utah state Rep. Phil Lyman, who is challenging liberal Gov. Spencer Cox in the GOP primary. Cox is a global warming Republican who supports illegal immigration and the transgender agenda. Lyman has fought the federal government on its death grip over Utah’s lands. He warns that thanks to Gov. Cox there is nothing standing in the way of the feds forcing rural Americans into cities and then locking up the state’s water, roads, and natural resources. We also discuss how Utah has become a magnet for illegal aliens and the need to make Utah’s convention model great again.